Estimated seats vs actual


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  • #426

    Jayp
    Member

    I keep looking at seats and when I log into the portal it shows me estimated number of open seats. But then when I dig deeper the actual number of available seats is higher. Which one should I refer my friend to four buddy pass travel?

  • #1238

    claudiac500
    Participant

    Did anyone reply to this? I’d like to know the answer. Thanks!

  • #1239

    steve
    Keymaster

    It’s a bit complicated.

    You have two different sets of numbers. The first set appears in the schedule. For example, on this LAX-JFK search:

    0471 LAX JFK 21Sep 11:35AM 21Sep 08:05PM DL 767 0/0(26) 0/0(0) 13/13(200)

    There are three types of numbers. The first, 0/0(26) is business class available seats (0), authorized (0), and capacity (26). The second is the same for first class, the third is the same for economy. What do these numbers mean? Let’s focus on the economy numbers. There are 13 seats available (i.e. unsold), 13 authorized for sale (sometimes more seats are authorized in anticipation of no-shows), and 200 total seats in economy. Sometimes you’ll see negative numbers, which implies that they’ve overbooked the flight.

    Now, if you click the icon at the end of the row (it says “standby list”), you will get to see the airport lists. The first thing you see is the standby list, and you can see your own position if you’ve already booked. Then, click “view airport standby list” to see more. In this flight’s case, here’s what was shown:

    Standbys Remaining:
    REV = 6

    NONREV = 4
    Seats Not Assigned:
    FIRST/BUSINESS = 0

    MAIN CABIN = 15

    This flight is leaving in about 30 minutes. So there are still standbys on the list that have not gotten seats. It looks like there are zero first/business seats left, 15 economy seats, and 10 standbys. So, it looks like everyone will get on that flight.

    Note that this information is useful just prior to departure. But if you try to look at a flight that is days or weeks out, you will see a lot of available seats in the airport standby list because no one has checked in. Once people start showing up at the airport, those numbers start to move.

    Sometimes, especially at hub cities like MSP, things can go totally opposite of what you expect. For example, a connecting flight might be late, and many of the listed standbys don’t make it to the flight, and you somehow get on.

    On the other hand, a flight might get cancelled and all the passengers from that flight might get moved onto your flight, pushing you off.

    Bottom line is that you can never be sure what will happen. Have a good plan and backup plan in case you don’t make the flights you want. The numbers are hard to really trust, except for when there are lots of open seats. When you see large numbers of seats (like more than 25 or 30% of the capacity), you usually have a pretty good shot.

    Good luck, hope this helps!

  • #1285

    JerryOwens
    Participant

    Thank you Steve, very helpful.

  • #1288

    JerryOwens
    Participant

    Still trying to better understand the TravelNet’s data to determine the odds of getting on a flight.
    Here are my questions:

    Here’s the flight info:
    SEA CDG 24Jun 7/7(33)BUS – 5/17(259) MAIN

    Looks like 12 unsold seats – so far so good…

    The nonrevenue standby list showsTotal Passengers in List # 11

    Q – Does that mean that 11 standby passengers are competing for those 12 unsold seats?

    Then we have the airport standby list (ASL) showing:

    Standbys Remaining: REV = 2 NONREV = 0
    Seats Not Assigned: FIRST/BUSINESS = 6 MAIN CABIN = 30

    (REV = 2 code is HK)
    Q – How does the “seats not assigned” on the ASL factor into this equation?
    Q – Do the non-assigned seats include unassigned seats for the 11 non-rev standbys?

    Thank you for helping me understand!

    • This reply was modified 1 year, 6 months ago by  JerryOwens.
    • This reply was modified 1 year, 6 months ago by  JerryOwens.

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